We often grapple with the question 'Is my hard-work paying off?' on an almost continuous basis. No doubt about the fact that everyone tries to do their best and hence put in the required hard work to get the desired results. But where do we go wrong? What diverges us? How do we course correct these actions and how do we deal with it? The episode contains answers to all of these and much more in this discussion.
Utkarsh Amitabh, an MBA graduate from INSEAD, is the founder of Network Capital, one of the world's largest peer-to-peer career advice platforms. He contributes to the World Economic Forum and is a Davos50 at the forum. He also managed Microsoft’s Business Development and Government Affairs and helped build India’s first smart village. He is someone you just can't stop listening to once he starts. Tune in!
There was a sprint racer athletes basically who run short dash races like a 100 meter race. But when he used to prepare, he did long distance runs to increase his stamina and build his speed. He put in a lot of hard work and effort but could never really win races. Now I'm sure you can understand the reason is simple and obvious. But surprisingly, there are lots of people who are doing the same with their careers, putting in long hours of work, working hard to give their careers the necessary push, but really getting nowhere. Well, that's exactly what I would call the Seductive Illusion Of Hard Work, which is also the name of the book by our guest today, Utkarsh Amitabh? Hello and Welcome to Secrets of Story tellers, I'm Shubham Aggarwal, now this is a podcast where we interview best selling business authors, share concepts, interesting stories and secrets from their authoring journeys. Hi Utkarsh, Welcome to Secrets of Story Tellers, How are you?
It's an honor to have you Utkarsh. Thank you. So Utkarsh, let's start with the your, you know, mentor, community setup network capital, which you set up four years back, if I'm not wrong, where do you find the motivation for it. How, how is it going? What do you what do you make out of it right now?
Great, I think it came from a place of truth. And whenever that happens, I think it really springs up and you know, blossoms like it has. I want to in fact ask you how the book came into picture, which I've answered, but was it something you always wanted to do? Or was was it that, you know, it just happened,
Great that that sounds really good. And yeah, there is definitely some serendipity to things which is always interesting. So, Utkarsh the book claims that you know, you might be doing all the hard work in vain, which I agree because you know efforts can go into the wrong direction sometimes, is there a mechanism to measure if our hard work is working against us?
Right, that's, that's wonderful. But as an Indian, at least we've been taught, or we've been told this by our ancestors by the elders, you know, the hard work is the way. Have you understood the concept of hard work wrong? Or what is the alternative to hard work, then? If not
And you find your journey yourself, or, you know, people sometimes want to define I want to be here or there after five years. However, I do not really agree with that question, personally. But still, that is a question in a lot of people's mind. No, I wouldn't be here in five years, can you do that or the journey really takes you finds its own path?
Only I wish that was possible.
Right. And that's that's a wonderful way of looking at it, I think, a very spiritual way of looking at the entire process. And a lot to learn from that as well, I think great. And very, right. I mean, if I look back at my 20 year old self, I think, yeah, things we used to think about grappled with back then were very, very different what they are today, right? And dutifully different. Right?
Great. So Utkarsh, before we move to the next section, one last question to you, what do you what is one piece of suggestion for all the enthusiastic fellows in almost every age group that they could follow while working towards their dreams?
Wonderful, thank you so much for that. All right. So we move ahead to the rapid fire section. This is a very new section that we've introduced in the podcast. And I think you would know the rules. Sure. So yeah, I do, if you're ready, I will shoot the questions. Let's do it. All right. So did you ever feel crippled by this seductive illusion of hard work itself? At any point in your life? Absolutely.
You can't be answering my next question. Alright, so that was my next question, what is the motto that you have in your life and if you could reiterate once more, so I
Great. I have a smile on my face because you remind me of Anna Hathaway from the intern. If you have watched that. movie I have and I really liked
Write, right? being in touch with the customer. And she really portrays that really well.
Yeah. Yeah. Great. So next question. Sleep is what the for the week? This is what he said in one of the HT Mint articles you wrote, how many hours of sleep? Do you manage yourself?
Wonderful. So I hope you would have managed good amount of sleep in the long Damocles now.
All right. All right. Wonderful. It's great. When you know, when someone is really honest about it, thank you. Alright, Utkarsh one last question. And this is something which is common across all the episodes that I have done till now. It's called the secret section. Since you know, the podcast is called secrets of storytellers. I want to ask you one secret about the book, or about yourself while you're writing that book that probably you've never shared before.
That's wonderful. I love how you put it, we underestimate what we can do in a decade. And we definitely overestimate what we do. For sure.
I relate to that. Yeah. Great. Thank you so much, Utkarsh. it was a wonderful discussion. And thank you so much, because I am at a similar point, in terms of age, at least. And I could reflect a lot on myself while we were discussing. And it was great, I could really feel good about it. And I'm sure the listeners gonna love it, too. I hope you enjoyed the session as well. I enjoyed it very much.
Thank you so much honor to have you Utkarsh with us. And thank you to all the listeners this is Shubham, signing off until the next secret and the next storyteller.
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