We generally keep analysing, assessing and understanding leadership and related topics. However, we hardly look at it from a local lens and so we thought why not. We are talking about the Indian Boss in this episode, what guides them and what defines them, what makes them stand out and what makes them unique across the World. Listen to the episode to understand some very intricate details about the Indian Boss.
Steve Correa, author of the book Indian Boss at Work, was the CHRO at Diageo India in his last corporate stint. He is an XLRI Jamshedpur graduate and has a knack for using beautiful analogies from Indian mythology.
My boss isn't in great. I so hate my boss. I really wish I had a different boss. You know, Indian bosses are so less efficient, I tell you. Now, these are often expressions you hear from employees across organizations. We never really satisfied with our boss, right? And there's always some of the other shortcoming that we have for ourselves. But have we ever looked at the picture from their shoes? Do we ever understand their perspective? We have Steve Correa with us, who has authored the book The Indian boss at work thinking global acting Indian, to exclude the Indian leaders, managers, and the team leads at length.
Pleasure. Well, before we begin, let me let me tell everyone that Steve and I share the same alma mater accelerate. But interestingly, he went to XLRI before I was even born. So, Steve, what is the most cherished memory from XLRI college days, and I want to really see if we have something in common or not,
In God, we trust in God we must was this the slogan back then as well?
It was a great, great, great. So, Steve, let's begin with your reflections on you know, what I said in the in the beginning? For the Indian boss how or how we hate our bosses, what do you have to say about it?
Oh, my God. Okay.
These are troubling numbers
Definitely. So, Steve, moving on what we know about leadership. Now there are some core principles, right? We read about them almost everywhere. But how does Danesh Karlin Patra have relevance to this, which I think you've brought it out in the book is really quite in depth. But if you were to share some insights into it
Well, I really like how you have, you know, brought together the two things. And interestingly, with almost every case that I've spoken on my podcast, we talk a lot about the Indian Navy, because you know, the context is so much different when we talk about our culture's our systems, our structures, so I understand it, I think there's a lot of value in what you said. So, Steve, let's take a step back and probably look at what makes a good boss, then, you know, are the bosses in the West better or worse, because we keep comparing with that.
Wonderful, two things. One, that no, I love how you've connected the Indian wisdom, the age old Indian wisdom to the modern world, and how you present it with analogies is beautiful. The second is the what I could, you know, probably derived from the analogy of the theatre that you shared. And I could really relate to that experience when I while I was there, you know, as an audience, watching the Shakespeare play, I think then the Indians are doing much better. You know, we as people locally just trying to analyse them from a very local lens. We're not looking at what is exactly happening. We're just looking at stories, but we're not really looking at what is happening outside. And globally. We have much ahead because given the western context or the western foreground, we're still doing great as Indians
So, what is what is different about the Indian Wars then you know, can you can you probably give a few examples from your own experience. We have been chro with India and many other states, if you were to share some experience
Yeah, yeah, quite in detail. And I think I understand what you're saying. I think that they see leader structure will really help. So, thank you. Okay, so, Steve, I think we you know, during such podcasts or during an interview or during discussions, we really look at some positive sides and what are the rights of a particular aspect. I want to look at some of the dark sides of Indian voices if you can share that. I know that's against, probably you know, how you feel about it. But I still want to know if there are some dark sides to it. No, in fact,
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And I'm, I relate to it. Yeah.
Right. In fact, you know, Steve, my next question was related to what he said at the last, that you might have an inferiority complex or something like that. I will ask you what happens when an Indian boss steps out and starts functioning in the West? And I'm sure you've seen it across your career. what's your take on that? Um,
Wow. Great. Wonderful. Thank you so much for describing that in so much detail. I'm sure that's going help a lot of people who couldn't listen. So, Steve, this brings us to a different section, a new section that you've introduced in the podcast. And I must tell you, you're the first one will be starting this wait. So we starting a rapid fire section. And I'm going to ask you a couple of questions. And you can quickly you know how a rapid-fire works. Yeah. All right. Right.
Great. Okay. So, Steve, to what extent do you match the image of an Indian that you've portrayed in the book and in emboss.
Great. And what are your hopes from this book? What would be highest level of satisfaction for you
Steve(30:19) - Want the reader to really think about the timeless and eternal wisdom of India? I want them to feel proud. And I want them to act in a manner that they can discover their own national leadership within themselves.
Wonderful. And what gap? Are you trying to fill with this? Or you know, probably, that you realized while you started writing the book,
Wonderful, great. So, I think you did really well, or probably I did anyway. So there's one last question, which is common across all the episodes. And this is. So as you know, we call the show secrets of storytellers. I want to ask you one secret about the book, or about you know, the journey while you're writing the book that probably you've not shared on any platform until now.
That's the idea of this section. It's a beautiful secret, I must tell you, it's a very deep thing that you generally brought. I don't know if you know, people are not really comfortable sharing. So that's the entire idea of this question. And thank you so much that you could go so deep to share that.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much. It was a pleasure to have you. And I hope that the listeners enjoyed the session as well as the book. It's out and people can go out and check it out. Thank you once again and thank you to all the listeners until the next secret and the next storyteller, signing off. Bye
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